General Tires

[davbell22602]

Anybody heard anything bad about general tires recently? I know the reviews are just as good as bf goodrich on tirerack. I'm thinking on getting a set of the grabber AT-2 tires.

 

[The General]

I have only heard good things about them... However the ameritacks I have on my truck from them SUCK. I'm pretty sure they are a saftey hazzard..

 

[daspes]

They are a pretty good AT , just keep in mind that AT's gum up pretty easy as soon as it gets wet.

 

[davbell22602]

They are a pretty good AT , just keep in mind that AT's gum up pretty easy as soon as it gets wet.

Got any proof of the AT gumming up?

 

[daspes]

Got any proof of the AT gumming up?

???? Nearly all AT's gum up in the mud (there is a difference between wet dirt and mud), some do a little better, but it's no replacement for a MT offroad. They do well in the dirt, on the street, in the snow, pretty much everywhere. But they aren't the best in any situation, it's a compromise tire.

Proof? Brief google search and here are a few excerpts:

From offroaders.com -
All Terrains - All Terrain tires or AT are a compromise. All Terrains are an attempt to offer good performance both on road as well as offroad. The ALL TERRAIN TREAD is intended to performs well under a variety of conditions found offroad while still offering acceptable on-highway performance. This is accomplished by using a tread pattern design where the lugs are tighter together than a more aggressive mud tire's tread. The result is usually a quieter ride on the street than a mud tire due to its lesser aggressive tread pattern. When compared to a street tire, All Terrain tires usually produce more noise. The payoff of an All Terrain Tire is that they performs well on a variety of terrains: rocks, sand, somewhat in the mud while still offering decent traction on the paved road. One drawback of an all terrain is that the tread design tends to pack with mud however some of the AT designs perform surprisingly well in muddy conditions. The AT All Terrain is typically the tire for the 4-wheeler who drives their 4x4 as a daily driver and will see minimal trail use and more on highway driving.

Rangerovers.com -
All-Terrain versus Mud-Terrain Tires

Overview:
Nowadays, so-called "All-Terrain" (AT) tires are so similar to street tires that there is little off-road advantage to be gained by some of them. The latest re-design of the BFG A/T is a welcome exception to this rule, with wider voids at the shoulders. Also slightly more aggressive average are the recently introduced Big O XT, and Cooper Discoverer ST. These have tread patterns with larger voids than traditional all-terrains, and are uniformly open across the tire surface. They look more aggressive, and are noisier, but the tread blocks are larger as well as the voids, and I am not sure how much advantage is gained overall.
For serious off road use, however, the principal alternative tread design to an All-Terrain (AT) is the Mud-Terrain (MT) tire -- aggressive, no-nonsense treads designed to perform well in mud, but with drawbacks in highway noise, grip, and responsiveness. Mud tires are poor performers on wet pavement, ice and snow, and care must be taken in sand not to let them dig you in. But, mud is where you tend to get stuck, and mud tires are almost the only answer there. (I say almost, because some people advocate using chains instead).

From JCBoffroad-
All Terrains - All Terrain tires or A/T are a compromise. All Terrains are an attempt to offer good performance both on and off-road. The A/T is intended to perform well under a many various conditions found off-road while still offering acceptable highway performance. This is accomplished by using a tread pattern design where the lugs are tighter together rather than that of a more aggressive mud tire. The result is a quieter ride on the street than a typhical mud terrain tire due to a less aggressive tread. When compared to a street tire, All Terrain tires are usually louder on the street. The payoff of an All Terrain Tire is that they will perform well on a vast variety of terrain for instance rock, sand, and even the mud while still offering good traction on the highways. One drawback of most all terrain tires is that the tread designs tend to pack with mud however some of the AT designs perform very well in the mud. The A/T tire is typically the choice for the persont who drives their vehicle as a daily driver and it will see a minimal trail use.

 

[yellocoyote]

I don't run the Generals, but my BFG AT's are horrible in soupy mud. They are fantastic anywhere else - rock, sand, dirt, snow, etc. - but pretty abysmal in the mud.

 

[Zembonez]

Most ATs suck in the mud. I've had very similar results with BFG ATs to Yello's post above. My Cooper STs actually did pretty good in mud, but they weren't true mudders.

 

[94_c/1500]

I don't know about General all terrians, but their MTs aren't bad.
I've got BFG all terrians on my 2wd truck, I have to say they have surprised me. They do pretty good for an AT.

 

[Josh123]

It's a good all around tire it will last long and they pull fairly decent

 

[Lil Black Liberty]

Had nothing but amazing luck with my Firestone Destination A/T's.. I got into some soupy wet mud I mean it was really soupy.. I had gotten stuck before in my Kumho A/Ts but now that I got the Firestones I have absolutely no problems.

 

[02liberty]

we have the General Grabber AT'2 on our Grand Cherokee and love them. They are wearing GREAT after almost 2 years, still look like new

 

[Brad92]

They are a pretty good AT , just keep in mind that AT's gum up pretty easy as soon as it gets wet.

Got any proof of the AT gumming up?

???? Nearly all AT's gum up in the mud (there is a difference between wet dirt and mud), some do a little better, but it's no replacement for a MT offroad. They do well in the dirt, on the street, in the snow, pretty much everywhere. But they aren't the best in any situation, it's a compromise tire.

Proof? Brief google search and here are a few excerpts:

From offroaders.com -
All Terrains - All Terrain tires or AT are a compromise. All Terrains are an attempt to offer good performance both on road as well as offroad. The ALL TERRAIN TREAD is intended to performs well under a variety of conditions found offroad while still offering acceptable on-highway performance. This is accomplished by using a tread pattern design where the lugs are tighter together than a more aggressive mud tire's tread. The result is usually a quieter ride on the street than a mud tire due to its lesser aggressive tread pattern. When compared to a street tire, All Terrain tires usually produce more noise. The payoff of an All Terrain Tire is that they performs well on a variety of terrains: rocks, sand, somewhat in the mud while still offering decent traction on the paved road. One drawback of an all terrain is that the tread design tends to pack with mud however some of the AT designs perform surprisingly well in muddy conditions. The AT All Terrain is typically the tire for the 4-wheeler who drives their 4x4 as a daily driver and will see minimal trail use and more on highway driving.

Rangerovers.com -
All-Terrain versus Mud-Terrain Tires

Overview:
Nowadays, so-called "All-Terrain" (AT) tires are so similar to street tires that there is little off-road advantage to be gained by some of them. The latest re-design of the BFG A/T is a welcome exception to this rule, with wider voids at the shoulders. Also slightly more aggressive average are the recently introduced Big O XT, and Cooper Discoverer ST. These have tread patterns with larger voids than traditional all-terrains, and are uniformly open across the tire surface. They look more aggressive, and are noisier, but the tread blocks are larger as well as the voids, and I am not sure how much advantage is gained overall.
For serious off road use, however, the principal alternative tread design to an All-Terrain (AT) is the Mud-Terrain (MT) tire -- aggressive, no-nonsense treads designed to perform well in mud, but with drawbacks in highway noise, grip, and responsiveness. Mud tires are poor performers on wet pavement, ice and snow, and care must be taken in sand not to let them dig you in. But, mud is where you tend to get stuck, and mud tires are almost the only answer there. (I say almost, because some people advocate using chains instead).

From JCBoffroad-
All Terrains - All Terrain tires or A/T are a compromise. All Terrains are an attempt to offer good performance both on and off-road. The A/T is intended to perform well under a many various conditions found off-road while still offering acceptable highway performance. This is accomplished by using a tread pattern design where the lugs are tighter together rather than that of a more aggressive mud tire. The result is a quieter ride on the street than a typhical mud terrain tire due to a less aggressive tread. When compared to a street tire, All Terrain tires are usually louder on the street. The payoff of an All Terrain Tire is that they will perform well on a vast variety of terrain for instance rock, sand, and even the mud while still offering good traction on the highways. One drawback of most all terrain tires is that the tread designs tend to pack with mud however some of the AT designs perform very well in the mud. The A/T tire is typically the choice for the persont who drives their vehicle as a daily driver and it will see a minimal trail use.

I love my Hankook Dyanpro ATM RF10's on my truck. Yes, A/T tires do gum up. All of the brands I have had have gummed up, some more than others. The Hankook's are like Toyo A/T's but better and cheaper. They are not self cleaning like mud tires. But, I have never hydroplaned with these like I have with others (Cooper Dominator Sport A/Ts were the worst)

PROOF: This is just going down my driveway.

 

[Brad92]

I have only heard good things about them... However the ameritacks I have on my truck from them SUCK. I'm pretty sure they are a saftey hazzard..

The Ameritracs are pretty bad, but then again, pretty much all factory tires on new vehicles are bad.

 

[Chevy]

I sell tires for a living. I would never put Generals on anything I own.

 

[AZ Outlaws]

I sell tires for a living. I would never put Generals on anything I own.

Okay... would you care to elaborate as to why??

 

[Chevy]

Poor quality, weak sidewalls, common separation issues, not a great wearing tire

 

[SurfGuitar141]

Poor quality, weak sidewalls, common separation issues, not a great wearing tire

Does this apply to any specific model general tire, you seem to paint the entire brand with a wide brush stroke....???

I've been reading a lot of tire reviews lately, and out of many who own and run on the General Grabber AT2, only one negative opinion, and I believe it had more to do with the fact that this person is a died in the wool Cooper fan, than any problems he might of had with General tires...

There are several model Goodyears many off roader's won't touch with a ten foot pole, but the Dura-Tracs seem to be quite popular....

Every brand has their fans and foes, and every brand has good models and not so good models, I have General Grabber HTS's on my Jeep Liberty right now, they have 10,000 miles on them and still look brand new, no tread sepparation or other issues....